This episode is sponsored by Nexo.ioNEAR and FTX US.

On today’s interview, NLW is joined by Mathieu Nouzareth, the CEO of The Sandbox. The Sandbox is one of the leading metaverse platforms today, with deep roots in gaming. In this conversation, they look at the state of metaverse build out, what Web 3 needs to work on building next and why cities are a model for how to design metaverses.

Find our guest on Twitter: @mnouz

“The Breakdown” is written, produced by and features Nathaniel Whittemore aka NLW, with editing by Rob Mitchell, research by Scott Hill and additional production support by Eleanor Pahl. Jared Schwartz is our executive producer and our theme music is “Countdown” by Neon Beach. The music you heard today behind our sponsors is “Catnip” by Famous Cats and “I Don't Know How To Explain It” by Aaron Sprinkle. Image credit: Rob Mitchell/CoinDesk. Join the discussion at