This episode is sponsored by, Circle and Kraken.

On this episode of “Grateful for Bitcoin,” NLW is joined by Voltage cofounder and CEO Graham Krizek. Voltage provides enterprise-grade infrastructure for the Lightning Network. On this episode, Graham and NLW talk about the current state of Lightning and discuss why some of the customers interested in bitcoin might surprise you.

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“The Breakdown” is written, produced by and features Nathaniel Whittemore aka NLW, with editing by Michele Musso and research by Scott Hill. Jared Schwartz is our executive producer and our theme music is “Countdown” by Neon Beach. Music behind our sponsors today is "Back To The End" by Strength To Last. Image credit: sarayut Thaneerat /Getty Images, modified by CoinDesk. Join the discussion at