This episode is sponsored by and Circle.

Editor's note: This interview was recorded on Oct. 24 and so it doesn’t reference the events of the last week.

On today’s “Breakdown” interview, NLW is joined by Miller Whitehouse-Levine, policy director at the DeFi Education Fund. They discuss the state of regulatory discourse in Washington, D.C., along with key recent events including Treasury Department sanctions.

Find our guest on Twitter: @millercwl

“The Breakdown” is written, produced by and features Nathaniel Whittemore aka NLW, with editing by Rob Mitchell and research by Scott Hill. Jared Schwartz is our executive producer and our theme music is “Countdown” by Neon Beach. Music behind our sponsors today is “War” by Enoch Yang. Image credit: Stephanie Keith/Getty Images, modified by CoinDesk. Join the discussion at