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Jon Wu works on growth with Aztec Network and is a deep thinker when it comes to the challenges of privacy in a digital age. In this conversation, he and NLW discuss privacy from a principle and ethics standpoint, zero-knowledge proofs and whether technology could solve problems that many think only public policy holds an answer for.

Find out guest on Twitter: @jonwu_

“The Breakdown” is written, produced by and features Nathaniel Whittemore aka NLW, with editing by Rob Mitchell and research by Scott Hill. Jared Schwartz is our executive producer and our theme music is “Countdown” by Neon Beach. Music behind our sponsors today is “War” by Enoch Yang. Image credit: Camerique/Getty Images, modified by CoinDesk. Join the discussion at