This episode is sponsored by, Circle and Kraken.

On today’s episode of ‘Grateful for Bitcoin,’ NLW is joined by Kraken co-founder and CEO Jesse Powell. They discuss the fallout from FTX, philosophy, regulations, NFTs and how the industry can move on in a positive direction.

“The Breakdown” is written, produced by and features Nathaniel Whittemore aka NLW, with editing by Michele Musso and research by Scott Hill. Jared Schwartz is our executive producer and our theme music is “Countdown” by Neon Beach. Music behind our sponsors today is "Back To The End" by Strength To Last. Image credit: Malte Mueller /Getty Images, modified by CoinDesk. Join the discussion at