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Building the Boring Stuff: Making Payments Sexy

Constructing the fabric connecting multiple banking structures, blockchains, regulatory regimes and foreign exchange services, and digitizing it for cross-border payments.

February 17, 2023

What is the role of the U.S. dollar? Is it not just a purchasing power but a language? As the crypto economy shifts, can stablecoins keep Bitcoin's original promise in payments, foreign exchange and cross-border settlement?

On this episode of “Money Reimagined,” Michael Casey speaks with Gordon Liao, chief economist at Circle, the creator and issuer of the USDC stablecoin token; and Alex McDougal, the CEO of Stablecorp, a Canadian-based company that has created the Canadian dollar-backed stablecoin QCAD, to discuss the future of payments with the integration of stablecoins in the ever-changing crypto economy.

This episode was produced and edited by Michele Musso with announcements by Adam B. Levine and our executive producer, Jared Schwartz. Our theme song is “Shepard.”


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