This episode is sponsored by Brave.

The term “crypto” has become somewhat all-encompassing. The umbrella term now covers everything in the industry, from Web3 and non-fungible tokens (NFT), decentralized finance (DeFi) to venture capital. But where there’s crypto, there’s custody. And not all crypto custody solutions are alike.

Live from Consensus 2023: Eleanor Pahl, associate producer at CoinDesk, sits down to chat with Tim Tully, CEO of Zelcore, for a wide-ranging conversation about the state of the crypto industry, blockchain technology developments, security and more.

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This episode is executive produced by Jared Schwartz and produced and edited by Eleanor Pahl, cover image by Kevin Ross and the theme song is "Get Down" by Elision.