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Where Do Metaverses Go From Here?

Tech futurist Cathy Hackl breaks down the key trends in metaverse development. Plus: Genesis news and Policy Week.

January 26, 2023

On “Carpe Consensus,” hosts Ben Schiller, Danny Nelson and Cam Thompson take a well-rounded look at this week in crypto news with guests Cathy Hackl and Marc Hochstein.

  • [1:49] Inside the Desk: Danny outlines the late night, mad dash to get the story out that Genesis’ crypto lending businesses had filed for bankruptcy protection in New York. (Genesis is a unit of Digital Currency Group, which also owns CoinDesk.)
  • [6:57] Cathy Hackl: The tech futurist and metaverse strategist joins to discuss her new book “Into the Metaverse,” interactions at the World Economic Forum and predictions for Web3 in 2023.
  • [23:50] Marc Hochstein, executive editor of Consensus, highlights Consensus Magazine’s Policy Week. Also, Marc drops the quote of the week: “This technology is like a beautiful horse.”

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“Carpe Consensus” is executive produced by Jared Schwartz and produced and edited by Eleanor Pahl.